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Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 14:10
by Wombat
there is many old cool games we remember and used to play a lot, which are now for free ! no torrents, u just download them with browser.
<Illegal files removed. Beherith>
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 14:39
by Master-Athmos
Make sure that what you say here is really true. "Abandonware" is neither free nor legal. I don't know if that's the case for the given two games though. Just giving torrents as download links doesn't give this a good start though...
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 14:56
by Auswaschbar
Wombat wrote:there is many old cool games we remember and used to play a lot, which are now for free ! no torrents, u just download them with browser.
Its rapidshare, no torrent! must be legal!!11!
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:08
by Wombat
abandonware is legal especially when company doesnt exist anymore or they doesnt care about this game so it becomes 'legal'
learn to read and understand, u can download it with browser, not from torrents what means u can do it FAST, thats all, stop being retarded
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:20
by zwzsg
Abandonware is NOT legal. It's just less morally wrong (depending on your ethics).
The only way it could be legal would be if the company still existed, and cared enough to declare it okay to download. Like EA did for the old C&C. But then it's not abandoware, just freeware.
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:24
by Beherith
These files are illegal. Dark colony belongs to UbiSoft. And I couldnt dig up enough info on jazz to determine that its freely released - but the underdogs said its not freeware, and they are usually right.
Read up on copyright law.
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:26
by Master-Athmos
Wombat wrote:learn to read and understand, u can download it with browser, not from torrents what means u can do it FAST, thats all, stop being retarded
Yeah ok I read rapidttorent instead of rapidshare...
Abandonware still isn't legal in any way so unless you show a source for the developers or right owners which give it away as freeware (a not existing company is no reason - elsewhise people would cheer as with neither Cavedog nor GT Interactive existing today Total Annihilation would be free) it's no save bet to call it free...
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:26
by Wombat
zwzsg wrote:The only way it could be legal would be if the company still existed, and cared enough to declare it okay to download.
wrong, if company doesnt exist it can be used 'normally'
zwzsg wrote:Abandonware is NOT legal. It's just less morally wrong
learn2law, there is nothing between. if u cant be sentenced for something, its legal, right ?
are u going to argue now about license ? remove topic or not coz right now u sound silly
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:28
by Wombat
as long as dark colony is freeware and i dont get money for putting it anywhere its nothing wrong with that lol
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:29
by Beherith
Dark colony is not freeware, its owned by UbiSoft. If you have any proof of the opposite, please post a link. And no, a download link is not proof.
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:33
by Wombat
since when dark colony belongs to ubisoft ? O_o u require links from me if u give none
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:34
by Beherith
The burden of proof is on the offender.
But just so you see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Colony
Dark Colony is a 1997 real-time strategy computer game developed by GameTek and published by Strategic Simulations, Inc..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Simulations
SSI was acquired by Mindscape in 1994, spent time as part of Mattel, and finally became part of Ubisoft (in March 2001), which has since retired the brand name.
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:36
by Wombat
huhu, cant find any proof since when it belongs to ubisoft ? ;_;
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:36
by Master-Athmos
Wombat wrote:huhu, cant find any proof since when it belongs to ubisoft ? ;_;
To my knowledge SSI was bought by Mindscape which later on got bought by Ubisoft...
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:37
by Wombat
to my knowledge earth is flat... no wait >,>
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:38
by Beherith
My ninja edit was too slow.
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:40
by Pxtl
If a game does not have an official document from the owner saying "this game is free to download" then it's best to presume that whoever owns the IP (even if they are unaware of that fact) is retaining their copyrights.
Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:52
by Wombat
u still didnt prove that abandonware cannot be distributed without knowledge of owners
also, funny u talk about this on forum with ta mods

Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:52
by JohannesH
Its good to know abandonware isnt supported on this site

Re: Old, cool, free, legal games
Posted: 09 Mar 2010, 15:59
by Beherith
What a surprising turn of events! Who would, ever in their lives thought that that would be your next move, wombat? You are so mightily clever!
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