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4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 19:51
by CarRepairer
I thought of an idea, and searched to see if someone else thought of it and found this post to be close:
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MrAstrup wrote:Hi.
I suggest that:
The TA style camera mode is enhanced by making it possible to rotate the view 90 degrees. If say your base is located at 12 o'clock and the enemy at 6 o´clock on a map, the player having the base at 12 o´clock is always facing his own base and the enemy at the "back", because the camera always has ´12 0'clock at the front.
The Total War camera is changed a litlle, so that the camera angle is not 90 degree topdown when you are zooming out, but only 80 or 75. This would increases the sight a litlle when zooming out. As it is now, you hardly dare to zoom out because the overview is too little, which is a shame.
Do anyone agree ?
-MrAstrup
I will reiterate my idea:
Allow TA-style camera to face any of the 4 directions, and rotate minimap to be likewise. This would allow a new perspective on some maps and make them feel "new", as well as giving you the most comfortable perspective if you start at the top of a map but prefer attacking from the bottom of the map and moving "up" toward the enemy, for example.
Disadvantage would be allies saying "push west" or "push left" and it would cause confusion. This could be slightly alleviated by a small compass on the minimap.
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 20:04
by manolo_
i like the idea of rotating minimap, also i prefer when i play from south to north (dunno why, feels better :) ), so that would be nice
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 20:21
by Pxtl
Actually, the lack of rotating minimap is why I stopped using the rotatable camera. By reflex, I drag the camera around on the minimap a lot... and dragging around the camera in rotatable mode, where the "right" on the minimap doesn't necessarily correspond to the "right" on the screen was hyper-disorienting.
However, I'd want a fully freely rotating camera mode, where rotating the "main" camera rotates the minimap. Obviously, I'm in a minority on that opinion.
Either way, just fixing the zoom-to-unit and the map-edge bugs of rotatable camera mode are, imho what should be the top-priority fixes for the cameras.
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 00:15
by CarRepairer
Pxtl wrote:However, I'd want a fully freely rotating camera mode, where rotating the "main" camera rotates the minimap. Obviously, I'm in a minority on that opinion.
This would be an extension of what I suggested, but I wanted to start smaller and ask if the N/S/E/W alone is doable. Having the 4 directions would still be a great feature and the minimap rotation would be less complex.
manolo_ wrote:i like the idea of rotating minimap, also i prefer when i play from south to north (dunno why, feels better :) ), so that would be nice
I'd assume this is because when we tilt the camera we are looking north. Expanding north to south feels a little like moving backwards.
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 01:53
by Forboding Angel
+5 this would be very nice
DOW does this, and it's frigging nice.
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 09:44
by Warlord Zsinj
I always got really disoriented when I'd flip my isometric view about in a game like sim-city2k...
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 05 Feb 2009, 18:40
by CarRepairer
Warlord Zsinj wrote:I always got really disoriented when I'd flip my isometric view about in a game like sim-city2k...
Agreed, but my desire would be to rotate the camera to a direction of my choosing at the start of the game and leave it that way for the whole battle (for the most part). I pretty much just want it for the "expanding up" thing.
Oh and compass doesn't have to be on the minimap, just next to it. That can be lua'd though.
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 06 Sep 2009, 16:17
by Umrug
I will bump this until this gets done.
No more desyncs since two years, the next big thing is do this.
Simple - default camera rotatable to N/S/W/E and the minimap also rotates. Don't want widget, want engine feature.
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 01:17
by Auswaschbar
Umrug wrote:I will bump this until I finished it.
No more desyncs since two years, the next big thing on my todo list.
Simple - default camera rotatable to N/S/W/E and the minimap also rotates. Don't want widget, will do as engine feature.
Fixed it for you.
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 05:33
by REVENGE
What's a good key combo to bind the camera rotation to?
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 07 Sep 2009, 05:55
by jK
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 11:16
by xiaoliang
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 15:01
by Pxtl
REVENGE wrote:What's a good key combo to bind the camera rotation to?
Ctrl+[,]
Re: 4-direction TA-style camera and minimap rotation
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, 19:48
by zwzsg
Umrug wrote:No more desyncs since two years, the next big thing is do this.
I had desyncs, like, just last month version.
