why i don't like ca

why i don't like ca

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tombom
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why i don't like ca

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2258 licho 18/06/2008 19:59:32
http://caspring.org/changeset/2258
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* BIG CHANGE! air <-> land integration:
* there are no special damages vs air now, llt/hlt etc do full damage to air
* janus, warrior, leveler, heatray, sniper and similar now can fire air (where it has chance to hit), however air is not prioritized by such units
* banshee, rapier, krow can shoot air
* to balance for full damage vs air, gunships get 30% extra HP, other aircrafts 30% extra speed
* cruiser cost increased
* no more special damage sub vs sub
* brawler changed to heavy brawler, bigger, badder, more damage less accuracy
* brawler and blackdawn range increased
* minor balance tweaking of all air units (costs)
* Liche renamed to Licho (to avoid OTA intellectual property breach)

The Liche isn't even a TA unit, so this was pure vanity as far as I can tell, especially as no other unit had its name changed. The current poll has the options:
  • It's ok I agree with the changes
    Trebuchet and punisher should be back in the game, I want to porc more
    Luger and diplomat should be back in the game, I want more options and duplicated artilleries
    All removed units should be back in the game I dislike any changes
    Not playing CA yet
Apart from the hilarious "Not playing CA yet", can you guess which option they want you to pick? Currently All removed units should be back is winning in a landslide, although I'm sure this poll will be ignored like all the others.

Incidentally, I'm currently muted in #ca and #cadev indefinitely by det and he's ignoring all my pms!
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Machiosabre
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aw its just bad research and bad pr, nothing new.
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Licho
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Liche might not be OTA unit, but I got a call from Atari recently, it appears they still have the licence and they explicitly demanded to rename Liche!
Since I dont have enough money for trial due to all CA t-shirts and plastic PW models I bought, I decided to submit to their pressure :(

As far as poll go, they are purely informative :) We are not developing mod by popular demands. Dev team nearly unanimously agrees with removal of those units, mostly because we had time to talk and think about it, unlike players who probably dont understand why it was done.
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Otherside
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Post by Otherside »

this post is lol i must post here

*posts*

lol

hating CA cos a unit got slightly renamed and more people requested licho to do it than licho thinking of doing it himself lalalala at least it was a unit not a whole mod named after the creator

lol


and about the last poll here is my personal reasons why this poll in particular should be ignored (most of the others arent) the most voted poll option is "we dont want CA to change dont remove any units.

Now this community is very close minded and any sort of change from the basic OTA build is like blasphemy. BA players just want CA to be BA with updated graphics, alot of players want as many options as they can get even if they are redundant and stupid (OMG i want 10000 types of tank) and most commonly people are resistant to change.

CA devs do listen to players alot but im pretty sure all the people who voted for that particular options are not the CA core playerbase and just BA players or close minded people resistant to change. Infact i asked around the #CA channel every1 voted for the first 3 options (mainly the first) rather than the latter

and no special damages was always in the to do list and i to was skeptical about how air would work, had a few games yesterday and tbh i love it, Air is viable but dusnt seem OP its not so much WIN or LOSE like it was. So try the changes b4 bashing it, Cos yeh u might call me a CA fanboi and i might target some hate towards BA. But i play CA daily and have played well over 100 games of BA

so stop being emo. Like ive been told b4 , Its against policy to discuss bans on forum its also against policy to make a topic to specifically bash a mod/person


*end post*
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Day
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Post by Day »

hahahahahhahahahhaha CA.









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clericvash
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Post by clericvash »

You seem to be whining about something that hardly matters at all, i have not played CA but that list you put up seems some pretty good changes have been made.
Close minded fool!
tombom
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clericvash wrote:You seem to be whining about something that hardly matters at all, i have not played CA but that list you put up seems some pretty good changes have been made.
Close minded fool!
i helpfully bolded the bit i was referring to but feel free to call me a close minded fool some more i feel really insulted

nice response licho nice

det ignored my pms so whatever

calling everyone who disagrees ba players is silly. the reason i was complaining about the poll was it included a ridiculous strawman complaint in with every resonable opinion except the first so people like you could go "oh they don't like any change fuck them"

i do play ca sometimes but it crashes/breaks/whatever rather often and i don't like some parts of it so whatecer
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Otherside
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tombom wrote:
i do play ca sometimes but it crashes/breaks/whatever rather often and i don't like some parts of it so whatecer
and i thought tombom was clever. Guess hes just another one of those people that has to say CA sucks cause it crashes cos he has no valid arguement even tho CA/BA crashing is equally likely
tombom
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Otherside wrote:
tombom wrote:
i do play ca sometimes but it crashes/breaks/whatever rather often and i don't like some parts of it so whatecer
and i thought tombom was clever. Guess hes just another one of those people that has to say CA sucks cause it crashes cos he has no valid arguement even tho CA/BA crashing is equally likely
actually you're right that's probably mostly my computer starting a game is a crapshot as to whether it will actually work or black screen me or something
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lolca?
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TradeMark
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Post by TradeMark »

I sense this thread is going to get locked soon.

I doubt anyone called Licho and said to change the name, unless someone made prank call to him :D

And why did tombom get muted at CA channels?
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[Krogoth86]
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Lol - CA mocking Lord Matt... :wink:
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CarRepairer
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I wanted Liche to be renamed Licho when I first heard of it. I don't remember who suggested it first or if several people have jokingly/seriously wanted it, but it wasn't Licho himself hence it's not vanity.
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People have been joking about this for ages...if you're interested in complaining about megalomania you could probably find it elsewhere.
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In other news, the S44 team has decided to rename all units to variations of their usernames. Thus, the American Sherman tanks will henceforth be known as Nemos - M4A4 Nemo, M3A1 76, M3A1 Nemo 105, and of course M3A1 Nemo Jumbo. All "Panzer" units will merged with flozi, thus: FLOZer III, FLOZer IV, FLOZther, FLiger I, FLiger II (also known as King FLiger).

We believe these changes will aid us in our struggle to capture 120% of the Spring playerbase.
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120%!!!!

IS NOT ENOUGH!
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LordMatt
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[Krogoth86] wrote:Lol - CA mocking Lord Matt... :wink:
Mocking? It's probably the only CA change I agree with. :P
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Otherside
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LordMatt wrote:
[Krogoth86] wrote:Lol - CA mocking Lord Matt... :wink:
Mocking? It's probably the only CA change I agree with. :P
coming from someone whos never played CA or anything other than BA
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LordMatt
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Post by LordMatt »

I was not speaking to you otherside. You are the worst part of CA without a doubt.
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smoth
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drama drama drama
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