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how do I get...
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 19:06
by the-middleman
...nice water like this?

Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 19:12
by Peet
You buy a high-end nvidia card (but not the gf8 because it doesnt work on them) and turn on the dynamic water option.
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 19:20
by the-middleman
does it have to be a nvidea card? Cause I got dynamic water turned on and its not showing these nice waves.
I hope this is not one of these "The way its meant to be played" games
I got ati
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 19:21
by Peet
ATI cards do not have the necessary openGL support to run dynamic water.
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 19:25
by the-middleman
darn...
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 19:51
by Auswaschbar
Peet wrote:You buy a high-end nvidia card (but not the gf8 because it doesnt work on them) and turn on the dynamic water option.
Works fine on my gf8500

peet
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 21:44
by rcdraco
SHUT UP, SERIOUSLY. Do you listen to yourself, I have and ATI card, and a crappay 3.2ghz celeron with 512mb ram, and run full settings just fine. Not too sure about the card's name, but it is a 256mb pci-express, so yea, you need something more high end, and ATI cards in my opinion work much better for gaming then Nvidia, I admit, the Nvidia's get much better fps and run way smoother, but ATI cards, as long as I've had them have had support for more in opengGL earlier then Nvidia. But, yea, you want to see that, get an nvidia, because everyone buys them, and they work better with linux then ati.
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 21:52
by Muzic
In other words, you buy a nice graphix card.
I think my Sapphire (ATI) raedon 8600XT runs dynamic water, I dont remember cause I dont use that computer ever.
But my 7900GTO sure as hell does : D!
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 21:59
by Peet
Auswaschbar wrote:Peet wrote:You buy a high-end nvidia card (but not the gf8 because it doesnt work on them) and turn on the dynamic water option.
Works fine on my gf8500

What drivers do you have? I can run it just fine, but I get really weird streaky reflections.
rcdraco wrote:blather
Ok, show me a screenshot with dynamic water running, with some nice waves after an explosion.
Posted: 06 Aug 2007, 22:07
by Auswaschbar
Peet wrote:Auswaschbar wrote:Peet wrote:You buy a high-end nvidia card (but not the gf8 because it doesnt work on them) and turn on the dynamic water option.
Works fine on my gf8500

What drivers do you have? I can run it just fine, but I get really weird streaky reflections.
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.14.11
Posted: 07 Aug 2007, 10:45
by AF
nonsense.
GF8 series cards can run dynamic water but its a horrible fps hog and there are those horrible lines where reflection highlights are then stretched in a line to the top left corner of the map.
And that stuff about ATI and better openGL is even more rubbish. ATI has a poor OpenGL track record, they've always prioritized DirectX and as a result OGL has suffered on their cards. Do you not wonder why nvidia is better for linux? Everything in linux is OpenGL! And because ATi have let OGL slide and focused on the windows only DirectX so have their Linux drivers suffered.
So no, if you have dynamic water running on an ATI card either your muddled up or your lieing. No ATI card has the stuff needed to implement dynamic water, mainly because dynamic water uses an nvidia shader language ATI cards will never support IIRC.
Posted: 07 Aug 2007, 11:16
by Auswaschbar
AF wrote:GF8 series cards can run dynamic water but its a horrible fps hog and there are those horrible lines where reflection highlights are then stretched in a line to the top left corner of the map.
Its neither a fps hog nor have I seen any graphic bugs until now. Proof is here:
http://freenet-homepage.de/auswaschbar/tropical.jpg
Posted: 07 Aug 2007, 11:25
by AF
Thats not dynamic water that's reflective+refractive. Jelmer wrote that one, SJ wrote dynamic water.
If you had dynamic water there'd be big circular ripples and splash, yet that water shows only refractive distortion, no geometry distortion.