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Re: underwater los without sonar.

Posted: 05 Oct 2008, 09:17
by REVENGE
Gota wrote:Wouldn't it be best if it was done through tags and implemented in the engine?
That's my hope, but you know how these [feature request] kindof things go around here. :wink:

Re: underwater los without sonar.

Posted: 05 Oct 2008, 09:23
by Saktoth
Dunno why youd want a crappy, non-minimap visible, non-autofiring seismic signatures thing instead of sonar.

Anyway, at current sonar is the only way to see units that are under water. So if you jam sonar, you cant see the unit at all.

Are you proposing that a unit that is under sonar and under LoS, it should be visible regardless of jamming, if its under LoS and not sonar it should be invisible, if its under sonar and jamming and not LoS it should be invisible?

Kinda complicated, just make your sonars shorter ranged so they're only used for in-LoS detection, rather than for out-of-LoS tracking of units (radar does that anyway).

Re: underwater los without sonar.

Posted: 05 Oct 2008, 11:43
by REVENGE
Saktoth wrote:Kinda complicated, just make your sonars shorter ranged so they're only used for in-LoS detection, rather than for out-of-LoS tracking of units (radar does that anyway).
lol what? How is this suggestion relevant at all to the current discussion? You're telling me that the solution to my problem is to allow myself to be limited by the exact limitation I want to overcome! :lol:

Re: underwater los without sonar.

Posted: 05 Oct 2008, 22:08
by Spawn_Retard
Gota wrote:Wouldn't it be best if it was done through tags and implemented in the engine?
a lot of work :(

Re: underwater los without sonar.

Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 11:12
by Saktoth
REVENGE wrote:
Saktoth wrote:Kinda complicated, just make your sonars shorter ranged so they're only used for in-LoS detection, rather than for out-of-LoS tracking of units (radar does that anyway).
lol what? How is this suggestion relevant at all to the current discussion? You're telling me that the solution to my problem is to allow myself to be limited by the exact limitation I want to overcome! :lol:
Sonar is for revealing underwater units, not for long-range radar-style detection. Its more of an 'anti-cloak' than an early warning system. For outside-LoS tracking, use radar (i know this doesnt work on submerged units).

Hey, better yet, skip underwater units entirely. Have them just be cloaking ships with a large decloak radius.