Idra talking about balance!!11!!!!1

[BaNa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYtfBDJX ... r_embedded#

[Wombat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHG40AdYfJ0

[Soul]

This seems like high-level-player-whine, ZvP isn't that bad, have you ever heard of burrow?
Burrowed roaches pop up kill colossus, or infestors mindcontrol for epic devestation towards protoss.

This whole youtubeclip is all about trying to get the colossus nerfed.

But i'm all for removing the colossus if you protoss gets the reaver back =)

[smoth]

There is a difference between high level play an low level play. I see it all the time.

[Gota]

Protoss have been made gay...
Stalkers are gay mothership is gay, all their ships look gay...
And i want the lurker back for zerg!!

[Machete234]

Those 2 nerds bored me to death after 10 min

[Pxtl]

Much, much too much preamble about how newb-balance is different from hardcore-balance, and how newb-imba can be defeated by moar L2P, while hardcore-balance cannot. And about how they won't bother with historical issues.

@Soul

Something tells me that top-level players are well aware of the usage of the "burrow" command.

[smoth]

has to be said, most people think balance = balance for all players. Sometimes it simply is L2P NUBCAEK

[luckywaldo7]

I agree with Pxtl. For two people who are professional starcrafters, it was very casual commentary. Especially for a series of video episodes.

I would have much preferred:

• Cold hard stats, for example comparing viking to corruptor. I know anyone who plays the game knows that viking feel much better against colossus than corrupter, but you need the data to back up your intuition.
  
  Some very high-level games showing zerg having difficulty against colossus, especially when it looked as though zerg should have the upper hand.
  
  Input from a predominantly protoss player. No one doubts Idra's skill but he does have a bit of a reputation for whining about his faction of choice being under-powered.

I would say that the average spring game balance discussion is more in-depth, even if these starcraft players are way more serious about their game than the average spring player.

[Caydr]

Worst game ever. This morning, I shit and vomited simultaneously after coming up with a completely average, not-too-great-for-caydr RTS idea. Then, my shit and vomit had a war and it turned out to be filled with pretty great RTS ideas, but still totally garbage in comparison to the worst ideas I've ever consciously tried to think of. I have to keep cancelling my projects because the impact on the world would lead to a new arms race every time I sneeze.

[SwiftSpear]

This seems like high-level-player-whine, ZvP isn't that bad, have you ever heard of burrow?
Burrowed roaches pop up kill colossus, or infestors mindcontrol for epic devestation towards protoss.

This whole youtubeclip is all about trying to get the colossus nerfed.

But i'm all for removing the colossus if you protoss gets the reaver back =)

Protoss have observers.

[edit] I've been watching an assload of pro games, and I have to agree. Not so much that Collosus are Imba in ZvP, but the corrupter is not an effective counter to it because they are too easy to control with blink stalkers. Same goes for Infestors. Zerg needs some sort of long range anticollosus tactic. I would add a spell to the corrupter, something like yamato.