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PicassoCT
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http://codebutler.com/firesheep

Ever wanted to wreak some social havoc in a wifispot near you? There you go, have some fun.
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KaiserJ
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oh man. im gonna have some fun with this.
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TradeMark
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Am i the only one who thinks this is illegal...? Just because it hacks some ├╝ber stupid/retarded place, doesnt mean its legal IMO.
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I have raped about 10 facebooks today, and changes two peoples email addy passwords... university wireless ftw
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Why the hell would you bother?
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Jazcash
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Neddie wrote:Why the hell would you bother?
The same reason viruses, trojans, worms, hackers, defacers and goons exist.
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hmmm.. now that i think of it.. this has great potential! :D
i mean.. so many depend on facebook for their social life, and if every douchebag can alter everyone elses stuff...
novels will be written about it, and it could be one of the main reasons for WW3, some cleverly planned or coincidental manipulations here and there...
Mr. Burns wrote:go my little creatures, go!!
i would so love the world ending like this... damn.. gonna have good dreams this night! :D
thanks!
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I agree with Neddie. It doesn't seem like something worth bothering with.
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Post by Licho »

Why would you do that? It's like randomly hurting people or stealing their stuff.

Yes you can do it so what, you can steal things too. People who make spring stuff could easily send you a trojan that steals all your password, credit card numbers and formats your disk.

Don't do it, makes no sense and it's just not cool.
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Licho, i invite you for a free coffe to a web-cafe near you. I dislike your posts of valid criticism, that has to change.

And without Black Hats, nobody would employ lots of white caps to fix all the buggy software, that the real bad scam guys not even bother to use for social/ or annoyance purposes
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Licho wrote:Don't do it, makes no sense and it's just not cool.
I think its cool to kill facebook, who agrees? yes?
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Facebook is actually a useful social networking site unlike some other sites.

So no it is not cool to kill facebook.
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Jazcash
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!vote killfacebook

!vote 1
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zwzsg
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Yeah, it's kinda odd that in computer fields, people feels that "can be done" only refer to whether it's technically possible, completly forgetting that there might be legal and ethical limits in addition to technical ones.

I mean, when walking in the street, do you throw stones at cars considering the road builders are to blame for not securing the pavement against projectiles attacks? Do you steal everything that isn't behind shatter proof locked glass? Do you punch whoever does not wear body armour?
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zwzsg wrote:Yeah, it's kinda odd that in computer fields, people feels that "can be done" only refer to whether it's technically possible, completly forgetting that there might be legal and ethical limits in addition to technical ones.

I mean, when walking in the street, do you throw stones at cars considering the road builders are to blame for not securing the pavement against projectiles attacks? Do you steal everything that isn't behind shatter proof locked glass? Do you punch whoever does not wear body armour?
In the wild wild web there is no effective law enforcement. So yeah, you really can steal and harass. Do you know what happens in the real world when law enforcement fails? Same thing.

But like licho pointed out, harassing random passers by does not make any sense - if you enjoy something like that you should get help.
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Teutooni wrote:harassing random passers by
It's called trolling.
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Teutooni wrote:In the wild wild web there is no effective law enforcement. So yeah, you really can steal and harass.
Technically, not true. If you steal and harass, no matter through the medium, law still apply. Whether your harass via postal mail, via email, or via voice, you're subject to the same anti-harassment law.

The wild wilderness of the far web is a myth, brewed by politician trying to squeeze some votes by scaring the grandmothers, trying to feel important by making useless laws on subject they don't understand.

The only trouble is that laws are mostly thought on a national level. If your harasser is your neighbour, you can complain to the local cop and they can go see the troublemaker within the hour. But if you live in Sweden and your harasser is in Mozambic, good luck making judiciary system from countries so apart trying to work together for anything but very big cases.

Internets bring another issue, which is that it abolishes physical distance. Everybody is right next to everybody else. I mean, when securing your house, you only have to worry about the burglars that scour your block. On the internet, burglar from the whole word can poke your security. It's like if every night, thousands of burglars from all over the world would prod at your door lock.

As for the web supposed anonymity, well, it doesn't hold once a judge start sending letters to ISP and webmasters. Sure truely anonymous system exist, but what fraction of internet users are on them?
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Post by Karl »

Jazcash wrote:!vote killfacebook

!vote 1
!vote killfacebook

!vote 2

Seriously *enter some random crappy Novel and Movie that is probaly made from some Incompetent Infantry or Incompetent TV Seller* this is the most stupids idea also you can Call it as "Social"
since you cant hear them really and interacting with him (Bar fight anyone?) also so long (atleast on Germany) ,,Killergame Games"
gets marked on Korean (IIRC) polices gets a copy of CS to "Train"
and Thinking internet is a "Location" there will still give Fails
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Karl wrote:
Jazcash wrote:!vote killfacebook

!vote 1
!vote killfacebook

!vote 2

Seriously *enter some random crappy Novel and Movie that is probaly made from some Incompetent Infantry or Incompetent TV Seller* this is the most stupids idea also you can Call it as "Social"
since you cant hear them really and interacting with him (Bar fight anyone?) also so long (atleast on Germany) ,,Killergame Games"
gets marked on Korean (IIRC) polices gets a copy of CS to "Train"
and Thinking internet is a "Location" there will still give Fails
I'm sorry wut
Regret
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Post by Regret »

Karl wrote:!vote killfacebook

!vote 2

Seriously *enter some random crappy Novel and Movie that is probaly made from some Incompetent Infantry or Incompetent TV Seller* this is the most stupids idea also you can Call it as "Social"
since you cant hear them really and interacting with him (Bar fight anyone?) also so long (atleast on Germany) ,,Killergame Games"
gets marked on Korean (IIRC) polices gets a copy of CS to "Train"
and Thinking internet is a "Location" there will still give Fails
Well said. Would read again. :regret:
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