Deepwater Horizon oil spill - Page 2

Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post just about everything that isn't directly related to Spring here!

Moderator: Moderators

pintle
Posts: 1763
Joined: 19 Dec 2005, 16:01

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by pintle »

KaiserJ wrote:what really kills me with this whole thing

the exact same thing has been going on, but worse, for years over in the shell oil fields on the niger delta. the only reason this is getting consideration is because its next to the USA, not some 3rd world country where it can easily be swept under the rug.
Kinda puts into perspective our government's actual commitment to even vaguely trying to not render earth inhospitable to our children/grandchildren doesn't it. :(
User avatar
knorke
Posts: 7971
Joined: 22 Feb 2006, 01:02

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by knorke »

Hobo Joe wrote:Last I heard(yesterday) is that they are going to drill down 2.5 miles into the main pipe from different directions, then pump it full of concrete from there.
They started this relief drills only a few days after the sinking, the problem with the damaged original drill is newer though. At least new to the public.
render earth inhospitable to our children/grandchildren
How about a lake (well, a concrete lake now) where the radiation will kill you if you stay > 1 hour?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Karachay ,
http://www.damninteresting.com/in-sovie ... inates-you
Not to even start with the "normal" wastefulness of ressources, if you do so you just get crazy.
the only reason this is getting consideration is because its next to the USA, not some 3rd world country where it can easily be swept under the rug.
Yes. Or even worse:
Where your old computer ended up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXzsqTFwV3Q
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_waste_in_Guiyu
User avatar
AF
AI Developer
Posts: 20687
Joined: 14 Sep 2004, 11:32

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by AF »

KaiserJ wrote:what really kills me with this whole thing

the exact same thing has been going on, but worse, for years over in the shell oil fields on the niger delta. the only reason this is getting consideration is because its next to the USA, not some 3rd world country where it can easily be swept under the rug.

I said something along these lines on unforumzed and was called a dick by the US forum posters
User avatar
Hobo Joe
Posts: 1001
Joined: 02 Jan 2008, 21:55

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by Hobo Joe »

KaiserJ wrote:what really kills me with this whole thing

the exact same thing has been going on, but worse, for years over in the shell oil fields on the niger delta. the only reason this is getting consideration is because its next to the USA, not some 3rd world country where it can easily be swept under the rug.

Not to disagree, but to be fair I think this one is worse.


Then again I honestly have no idea.
User avatar
Gota
Posts: 7151
Joined: 11 Jan 2008, 16:55

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by Gota »

Hobo Joe wrote:
KaiserJ wrote:what really kills me with this whole thing

the exact same thing has been going on, but worse, for years over in the shell oil fields on the niger delta. the only reason this is getting consideration is because its next to the USA, not some 3rd world country where it can easily be swept under the rug.

Not to disagree, but to be fair I think this one is worse.


Then again I honestly have no idea.
that made zero sense.
you bought an Iphone didn't you.
User avatar
bobthedinosaur
Blood & Steel Developer
Posts: 2702
Joined: 25 Aug 2004, 13:31

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by bobthedinosaur »

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6610K620100705

The Russians have been saying this from Day 1.
User avatar
knorke
Posts: 7971
Joined: 22 Feb 2006, 01:02

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by knorke »

bobthedinosaur wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6610K620100705
The Russians have been saying this from Day 1.
Hooray, sucess rate of 3/5 8)
The nuke must be exploded underground:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpPNQoTlacU
So they must do a new drill anyway. They are already doing that but it takes months.
The fire of that gaswell might have been put out but some sources say it is still leaking gas out of the surrounding ground.
There is reports that the Deepwater Horizons well goes through multiple layers of oil bubbles, it might not seal. Also if the nuke does not work but instead just causes some random tectonic shifting the spill would become unstoppable.
User avatar
Caydr
Omnidouche
Posts: 7179
Joined: 16 Oct 2004, 19:40

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by Caydr »

This never would've happened if it was in the Gulf of AMERICA.
User avatar
bobthedinosaur
Blood & Steel Developer
Posts: 2702
Joined: 25 Aug 2004, 13:31

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by bobthedinosaur »

Interesting video knorke
User avatar
Sucky_Lord
Posts: 531
Joined: 22 Aug 2008, 16:29

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by Sucky_Lord »

Surely a nuke underwater would cause a bit of a tidal wave?
User avatar
PicassoCT
Journeywar Developer & Mapper
Posts: 10455
Joined: 24 Jan 2006, 21:12

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by PicassoCT »

Sucky_Lord wrote:Surely a nuke underwater would cause a bit of a tidal wave?
Knocking over moar Oilplattforms- that could be a nice domino-effect, and if everybody seabedwets himself with a darkfluid of unknown origin, nobody does, that is theeeee sollution ;)
User avatar
knorke
Posts: 7971
Joined: 22 Feb 2006, 01:02

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by knorke »

inb4 burning radioactive oil-tsunami 8)
User avatar
bobthedinosaur
Blood & Steel Developer
Posts: 2702
Joined: 25 Aug 2004, 13:31

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by bobthedinosaur »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMmFy4NdA8s
Not undersea, but underground on an island. Effects would be different with a large upward push on the sea floor.
The results from this would be interesting, yet the project was canceled before testing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ ... %281958%29
There was also Operation WIGWAM with a deep sea nuclear device: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_explosion
But if it was at a significant depth beneath the sea floor the results would not be the same.

However none of this is taking into account the damage done to the oil trap, which as knorke said may cause leaks through fissures in the rock.
User avatar
SwiftSpear
Classic Community Lead
Posts: 7287
Joined: 12 Aug 2005, 09:29

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by SwiftSpear »

Sucky_Lord wrote:Surely a nuke underwater would cause a bit of a tidal wave?
You don't need a disturbingly massive nuke, and it's really really deep. It shouldn't do damage to nearby cities, they've tested much larger warheads than the type needed underwater before and the wave dispersed before it did any damage.
User avatar
knorke
Posts: 7971
Joined: 22 Feb 2006, 01:02

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by knorke »

The nuke alone would probally be not the problem but when pumping out oil the floor subsides slowly. iirc there the ground has lost 1 meter of height (or maybe that was some other place not sure) Well at least that can happen and a nuke might cause cave ins or landslips if the floor is already destabilized and thats not so cool then.
User avatar
KaiserJ
Community Representative
Posts: 3113
Joined: 08 Sep 2008, 22:59

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by KaiserJ »

Hobo Joe wrote:Not to disagree, but to be fair I think this one is worse. Then again I honestly have no idea.
"more oil is spilled from the delta's network of terminals, pipes, pumping stations and oil platforms every year than has been lost in the Gulf of Mexico."
for 50 years...

also keeping in mind that the people there depend completely on the environment for their income, food and water... go down to the river, pull up a bucket of water, skim the oil off the top, and drink it

nigeria as a whole does not profit from the extraction of oil; foriegn companies pay the corrupt local government for the right to extract oil

so not only are the environmental consequences much worse, there's also a huge issue of human rights violations and exploitation of the native people of the region

how many died in that oilrig explosion? 10? the last big boom in nigeria killed over 100 civilians
User avatar
Forboding Angel
Evolution RTS Developer
Posts: 14673
Joined: 17 Nov 2005, 02:43

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by Forboding Angel »

KaiserJ wrote:what really kills me with this whole thing

the exact same thing has been going on, but worse, for years over in the shell oil fields on the niger delta. the only reason this is getting consideration is because its next to the USA, not some 3rd world country where it can easily be swept under the rug.
RACIST!!!!!!

:lol:
User avatar
FLOZi
MC: Legacy & Spring 1944 Developer
Posts: 6243
Joined: 29 Apr 2005, 01:14

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by FLOZi »

KaiserJ wrote:
Hobo Joe wrote:Not to disagree, but to be fair I think this one is worse. Then again I honestly have no idea.
"more oil is spilled from the delta's network of terminals, pipes, pumping stations and oil platforms every year than has been lost in the Gulf of Mexico."
for 50 years...

also keeping in mind that the people there depend completely on the environment for their income, food and water... go down to the river, pull up a bucket of water, skim the oil off the top, and drink it

nigeria as a whole does not profit from the extraction of oil; foriegn companies pay the corrupt local government for the right to extract oil

so not only are the environmental consequences much worse, there's also a huge issue of human rights violations and exploitation of the native people of the region

how many died in that oilrig explosion? 10? the last big boom in nigeria killed over 100 civilians
Excellent post.
User avatar
Sucky_Lord
Posts: 531
Joined: 22 Aug 2008, 16:29

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by Sucky_Lord »

FLOZi wrote:
KaiserJ wrote:
Hobo Joe wrote:Not to disagree, but to be fair I think this one is worse. Then again I honestly have no idea.
"more oil is spilled from the delta's network of terminals, pipes, pumping stations and oil platforms every year than has been lost in the Gulf of Mexico."
for 50 years...

also keeping in mind that the people there depend completely on the environment for their income, food and water... go down to the river, pull up a bucket of water, skim the oil off the top, and drink it

nigeria as a whole does not profit from the extraction of oil; foriegn companies pay the corrupt local government for the right to extract oil

so not only are the environmental consequences much worse, there's also a huge issue of human rights violations and exploitation of the native people of the region

how many died in that oilrig explosion? 10? the last big boom in nigeria killed over 100 civilians
Excellent post.
If only there was something we could do as a community to advertise this problem to the world
User avatar
knorke
Posts: 7971
Joined: 22 Feb 2006, 01:02

Re: Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Post by knorke »

omgomgomg hooray they did it?
with a new cap all oil is funneld to the ships. i think.
seems that now just removing the bolts and puttin on a contaimnement cap worked. so why all the cutting and stuff before.

lol from BP twitter:
New Page: http://BP.com/liveROVfeed View all Gulf of Mexico BP oil spill live feed videos from ROV cameras on one page vor ungefähr 3 Stunden via web
bitches be stealing my internetz idea!

Image
Post Reply

Return to “Off Topic Discussion”