Denmark,Immigration,muslims

[PicassoCT]

This all azumes that islam, like every other religion cant be brainhacked by a marthi ali luther, and europe just makes a little ghettogazstation visit to refool its population, instead of having. cultures are not written in stone, just look at indias caste system disassembling in one generation, because democracy kicked in

[Jazcash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

Just watched this. It's a scary thought but it's frighteningly true.

[tombom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

Just watched this. It's a scary thought but it's frighteningly true.

IM VOTIN BNP

my favourite bnp policy is "we're very environmentalist. britain's environment is great. the problems come from overcrowding therefore kicking all the darkies out solves two problems at once!! how convenient"

Unlike the fake ÔÇ£GreensÔÇØ who are merely a front for the far left of the Labour regime, the BNP is the only party to recognise that overpopulation ÔÇô whose primary driver is immigration, as revealed by the governmentÔÇÖs own figures ÔÇô is the cause of the destruction of our environment.

also spikedhelmet is correct as usual

and licho is sensible

[PicassoCT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

Just watched this. It's a scary thought but it's frighteningly true.

Sorry, but this video is- biased, propaganda bullshit.

Those numbers are carefully quoted out of context, the assumption is that nothing happens to a faith, no peak oil, no internal sacularisation, but history shows that not everything can be predicted by drawing a line on some statistic curves. And now excuse me, i have to shovel yesterdays two meter high horseshit from the road...

[Jazcash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKkY5EpVpY

Just watched this. It's a scary thought but it's frighteningly true.

Sorry, but this video is- biased, propaganda bullshit.

Those numbers are carefully quoted out of context, the assumption is that nothing happens to a faith, no peak oil, no internal sacularisation, but history shows that not everything can be predicted by drawing a line on some statistic curves. And now excuse me, i have to shovel yesterdays two meter high horseshit from the road...

I meant the rise of Islam.

[Gota]

The Rise of Islam!!!

[Argh]

I wonder what would happen, if all of the sudden, the muslims in america would start burning american flags in the streets and demand that all of you turn your back on alcohol, sex and rock n roll forever? Because that is what they try over here, by feeling offended from everything around them.

What, like people here don't do that on a regular basis?

This is America, and we have people organizing protests against any one of those issues, or all of them, on a regular basis. And nobody is all that offended, because most of us don't agree with them, and know our civil laws aren't likely to change due to their protests.

We have a very long history of movements like that, where they exaggerate their goals a lot in order to get people talking about an issue and move public policy slightly in one direction or another, or are intended to start a dialog within a community. Given our political system, fast changes on major issues rarely happen, so protests of this kind can be seen as small levers trying to move a very vast object, and aren't particularly harmful to the body politic- in fact, they help keep it engaged with the issues of the day.

More specifically though, addressing your point, if our major newspapers started to run editorial cartoons featuring "Christ the child molester" or something along those lines, yes, we'd see non-Muslims take to the streets.

I've viewed the Danish cartoons online, and I think that the Danish cartoons were incredibly juvenile and insensitive. There were lots of ways to talk about Muslims practicing self-censorship in regards to extremists within their communities that would have made the point better and without being blasphemous.

You don't mess with people's religions and expect a good result. It's not rocket science.


Lastly, that video's total bullshit.

Watch the BBC's rebuttal.

[PicassoCT]

Its freedome of speech or no freedome at all. Sorry that is one thing you can not discuss or compromize over. I feel very insulted by you even trying it, ARGH, as i whorship Freedom of Speech as my personal god and saviour, if you try that again, i will have to take a knife and visit you at home, so you understand how serious this is. Of course you are free to be whatever opinion you want, after i murdered you.

sorry ARGH, you dont seem to be up to date. If your fanatics would abandon your constitution, declare your laws nil, and see it as there right to shoot offenders on sight, that is not just a minor attempt to influence the poltical balance into there direction. It is try to put an end to politics, the hard way, by creating a Religous state.

[TradeMark]

yep.. i hate that demanding shit... i feel like shooting their brains out when they whine here about little things that only matters in their stupid religion.

[PicassoCT]

sorry, i lost the article-link, there was a story about a mosque in washington, were some muslim woman went and to protest via sit-in against the seperation of sexes in the mosque. Got carried away by police (black policemen, who at least not arrested them, getting the irony of repeating history) because the mosque was privat property, but well, seems not everything is as peacefull in your part of the universe, as you wish.

I lost the link, so you got to take my word for it, witch is quite unusual, i apologize for not equipping this with a source/footnote.

[Caydr]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=muslim+women+prote ... ted+mosque

[Forboding Angel]

Most restaurants pay their servers a very minimal hourly wage- in fact, they're allowed to pay under the regular minimum wage, by law, IIRC- so tips are a server's main source of income, at any place where you sit down and are served.

I've heard this before and it's just ridiculous, how can you pay below minimum wage? It's supposed to be the minimum.

There are actually a few states that have no minimum wage laws. In Puerto Rico the minimum wage is $4.10/hr.

However in this context, most if not all states have seperate minimum wage rates for employment positions that receive tips, ie in the restaurant industry. While regular state minimum wage may be $7-$8 an hour, minimum wage for waiters and such can be as low as $2-$3 an hour, by law.

And I agree, it is pretty ridiculous.

I hate the resturant industry simply for these reasons. The servers deserve to be paid a decent wage just like everyone else. 2-3 dollar base pay is bullshit.

In effect the resturants pass off the burden of paying their employees to the customer, which is out and out bullshit. I dunno if any of you have been out lately, but for a crap ass cheap shit meal at applebees, you're gonna be out 10 bucks (for a plate of food that shouldn't cost over 4 or 5), + your drink, another 2 bucks. Plus the tip, which is decided at random to be some arbitrary amount like 20%. SO basically, you'll prolly end up giving 5 bucks all told meaning that by the time you leave 20 bucks have been lifted from your pocket for what amounts to essentially a 6 dollar meal in a crappily laid out resturant with shit all over the walls.

1/4th of your bill was you paying the employee so that the employer doesn't have to. How is this not bullshit?

My apologies, but this is possibly my biggest pet peeve, and one of the main reasons I rarely bother to go out to places where you are served. That doesn't mean I leave crappy tips, I never do, my best friend is a server. That doesn't mean that I think it's right.

If a plate of food is supposed to be 10 bucks it should be 10 bucks, period. Not 15. If you wanna charge 15 bucks for a plate of food, FUCKING CHARGE 15 FUCKING DOLLARS!

/pissedoffrant

[Das Bruce]

I don't know what to say, I was expecting a 'minimum wage is socialism grr' post from you.

[Gota]

Making a special lower minimum wage for servers means less efficient price competition since the cost of the tip is blurrier than seeing the actual full price attached to every meal.

[Satirik]

I hate the resturant industry simply for these reasons. The servers deserve to be paid a decent wage just like everyone else. 2-3 dollar base pay is bullshit.

In effect the resturants pass off the burden of paying their employees to the customer, which is out and out bullshit. I dunno if any of you have been out lately, but for a crap ass cheap shit meal at applebees, you're gonna be out 10 bucks (for a plate of food that shouldn't cost over 4 or 5), + your drink, another 2 bucks. Plus the tip, which is decided at random to be some arbitrary amount like 20%. SO basically, you'll prolly end up giving 5 bucks all told meaning that by the time you leave 20 bucks have been lifted from your pocket for what amounts to essentially a 6 dollar meal in a crappily laid out resturant with shit all over the walls.

1/4th of your bill was you paying the employee so that the employer doesn't have to. How is this not bullshit?

My apologies, but this is possibly my biggest pet peeve, and one of the main reasons I rarely bother to go out to places where you are served. That doesn't mean I leave crappy tips, I never do, my best friend is a server. That doesn't mean that I think it's right.

If a plate of food is supposed to be 10 bucks it should be 10 bucks, period. Not 15. If you wanna charge 15 bucks for a plate of food, FUCKING CHARGE 15 FUCKING DOLLARS!

/pissedoffrant

this is how it works here ... and i agree 100%

[CarRepairer]

Even worse, food servers have to report to the taxman that their income is an additional 20% from tips whether they actually received that amount or not. It seems everyone here is in agreement that this is not a good system. How about instead of this nonsense, raise the wages, raise the prices, nix the tips, and increase the use of comment cards to gauge the quality of service?? I know that won't likely happen, but it makes sense to me and is fair to everyone, especially the poor food servers.

[Licho]

Tips also work as incentive for nicer behavior towards customers, I would not eliminate them.

[TradeMark]

We dont have tip system in finland... works just fine.

It's just too retarded to start thinking some percents in your mind and then give that amount of money extra...

If the service sucks because of some bitch in there, we just kick that fucker out of there.

[KaiserJ]

whatever bro they don't even have EMP drones, what could they possibly do

[Caydr]

Whenever I get a haircut I give them like a $20 tip just to blow their mind. They know it when they see me, and now you know it too. I'm pretty much hardcore awesome.

Sorry but I have an on-topic thing to add. Why not just declare things like burkhas (sp?) illegal on some pretense like terrorism? You can't just have people in masks running around, it defeats the purpose of wanted posters and stuff.

Turbans and beards too - there could be a bomb or cocaine or hookers in there.

This will mean that devout religious types in general, the kinds that tend to massacre each other or blow themselves up, can't so much as go outside. They'll have to leave the country.

I'm not really suggesting these, more like playing devil's advocate. To tell the truth, I'm surprised that in light of things like the Patriot Act getting passed without anyone so much as batting an eyelash, that these sorts of "gotta do it - terrorism!" things aren't getting forced through more often.

I seem to recall something along these lines in France but nothing specific. It's probably been suggested by one crazy or another in Canada but we're so unashamedly liberal it would never even reach a debate. Has this kind of thing been discussed in Europe at all? After all, you're much closer to the (stereotypical) source of the problem and are more easily accessible I would think.