lol!

[SwiftSpear]

Take that science!

[zwzsg]

That's cool. Now that perpetual motion has been invented, all energy crisis can be averted.

[KaiserJ]

heh i've always been interested in reading about people experimenting with alternative power sources / zero point energy / lifters and all that sort of stuff; this video actually seems fairly credible compared to some peoples claims (if only because they seem like a somewhat credible company and not a bunch of nutjobs working on things in their garden shed)

i mean; it seems like nonsense, but if this guy is willing to put his ass on the line in order to get people to accept it, then either he's a) mentally disturbed b) incorrect in his observations c) actually onto something.

its cool but i wont whole heartedly believe in it until i see the technology applied to a real-life application rather than just as a tech demo. thanks for the share, interesting stuff!

[Gota]

I think i saw a leprechaun inside that thing.

[Panda]

Very cool, but I wonder what it would take to get people or other companies use that in a real world application.

[SinbadEV]

I recall this guy who was on "Dragon's Den" (people com on asking for Venture Capital/Partnership with Investors, US Clone is called "Shark Tank"... not sure who we stole it from)... anyways...

He had not a perpetual motion thingy... but a method by which to take AC electricity and push it through a magnetic field and get more "concentrated" energy at the cost of wattage or amperage or something like that... the practical effect was a more efficient use of traditional power sources... they didn't invest primarily because of the "If you weren't an idiot GE or OntarioHydro would have bought your technology and started using it by now"... his argument was that he was going to build his own power-plant to compete with big Hydro... unfortunately some people are just greedy morons...

[Sausage]

It's a lie!

[BrainDamage]

if what they claim is true, instead of the energy "multiplication" mechanism, I'd really like to know how they manage to perfectly balance closed loop losses with the positive thermodynamic efficiency, which otherwise would lead to quick destruction of the battery/engine/rotor ( battery overcharging without protection circuit, engine spinning faster & faster until the rigid body approximations fail )

[Gota]

I doubt you'll be able to understand BD since they obviously are gonna turn all we know and accept as true up side down.
A new age is coming,where energy costs nothing.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

is there a review of it anywhere?

edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn

Steorn's advertisement in The Economist was intended to attract the attention of scientists to form a "jury" to perform independent tests of their technology and to publish the results.[22][23] 420 scientists contacted Steorn within 36 hours of the advertisement being published[24] and on 1 December 2006 Steorn announced that it had selected a jury.[5] The jury was headed by Ian MacDonald, emeritus professor of electrical engineering at the University of Alberta, and the process began in February 2007.[6]

In June 2009 the jury announced its unanimous verdict that "Steorn's attempts to demonstrate the claim have not shown the production of energy (...) The jury is therefore ceasing work".[6] Dick Ahlstrom, writing in the Irish Times, concluded from this that Steorn's technology did not work.[6] Steorn disputed the jury's findings[6] and said that, due to difficulties in implementing the technology, the jury had only been provided with test data on magnetic effects for study.[25] Steorn also said that these difficulties had now been resolved and that a commercial launch was still planned towards the end of 2009.[6][25]

I feel my belief tricking away...

[KDR_11k]

It violates a fundamental principle of thermodynamics and physics as a whole (energy is not created or destroyed). If this was actually possible it would pretty much invalidate large parts of our understanding of physics.

[aegis]

from what I've heard, it doesn't violate the laws of physics... because it's not creating energy, simply harnessing the constant force present in solid magnets.

this is assuming it works well.

[Jazcash]

from what I've heard, it doesn't violate the laws of physics... because it's not creating energy, simply harnessing the constant force present in solid magnets.

So magnets have a limitless supply of energy?

[SinbadEV]

from what I've heard, it doesn't violate the laws of physics... because it's not creating energy, simply harnessing the constant force present in solid magnets.

So magnets have a limitless supply of energy?

No, but they last for a REALLY REALLY REALLY long time... imagine a magnet being used to counteract the force of gravity on a metallic object .... this requires, in theory, at least 9.8 M/s/s or whatever right?

The idea behind both this Orbo stuff and the magnetic-induction-amplification thingy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvfi9ZpX ... 1&index=28

This is the future as soon an we figure out exactly what's ACCTUALLY happening in these crackpot's machines...

edit: The basic idea seems to be that we are wasting some part of the electricity we are generating because of it's frequency or something... this is actually old news because there has always been problems transporting power over electric wires etc... theoretically these magic machines are doing something like "polarizing" the electricity or stretching out it's waveform or something... the idea of it being able to charge a battery and run itself is harder to believe and basically indicates to me that they are going to burn out their magnets...

[zwzsg]

No, but they last for a REALLY REALLY REALLY long time... imagine a magnet being used to counteract the force of gravity on a metallic object .... this requires, in theory, at least 9.8 M/s/s or whatever right?

I put metal on table. Table prevents metal from falling down. Table has unlimited supply of energy-power-force!

Wow, I'm genious! Soon, we will have table-powered cars, table-powered lightbulbs, and then table-powered space rockets!


That, or you're kind of brillant genious that just lacked the motivation to listen to your physic teacher when he explained work = force x distance

[SinbadEV]

No, but they last for a REALLY REALLY REALLY long time... imagine a magnet being used to counteract the force of gravity on a metallic object .... this requires, in theory, at least 9.8 M/s/s or whatever right?

I put metal on table. Table prevents metal from falling down. Table has unlimited supply of energy-power-force!

Wow, I'm genious! Soon, we will have table-powered cars, table-powered lightbulbs, and then table-powered space rockets!


That, or you're kind of brillant genious that just lacked the motivation to listen to your physic teacher when he explained work = force x distance

you try holding up a 10 pond metal brick for an hour... the tell me how it's the same amount of effort as balancing said brick on your stomach while lying down... I might not have paid much attention to moron trying to teach senior level physics (which I did technically fail), but I am a genius.

you're like those people who complained that my theory that if we could work out a way to convert mass directly into energy we could reach light speed because the mass of your fuel would increase at the same rate as your increased need for energy

or like those mathematicians who kindly explained that you'd reach infinity no faster if you multiplied by 3 over and over then if you multiplied by 2 over and over (that came down to a difference of opinion of the definition of infinity, mine was wrong and there is no real term for what I meant so I lost that argument.)

[JohannesH]

Reinventing physics ftw

[Tribulex]

Hey, spring did it first!

[zwzsg]

but I am a genius.

Honestly, I had doubts. But your answers to that thread really cleared that up!

you try holding up a 10 pond metal brick for an hour...

That's okay. I'll use the portable version of my special antigravity device:



With it, I can hold 10 pond of brick or metal at arm height forever! Or a least until I exhaust all the energy contained within the alumium stands of my device, from the constant strain of pushing the brick upward at 9.8m/s┬▓

or like those mathematicians who kindly explained that you'd reach infinity no faster if you multiplied by 3 over and over then if you multiplied by 2 over and over

Btw, these were not true mathematicians. No mathemacian would ever talk about reaching inifinity in such terms. They'd compare the series U(n+1)=U(n)*3, U(0)=1 and V(n+1)=V(n)*2, V(0)=1 (or more simply, 3^n and 2^n) and they'd say Lim(n->+oo) U(n)/V(n) = +oo, but they would not say "if you multiply by 3 you reach inifinity faster than if you multiply by 2" cause this make no sense mathematically.

you're like those people who complained that my theory that if we could work out a way to convert mass directly into energy we could reach light speed because the mass of your fuel would increase at the same rate as your increased need for energy

I'm kinda curious about what would be indirect conversion, and where does the lost energy or mass go in "indirect conversion", but then you probably don't believe in conservation of mass & energy. By the way, do you know what does E=mc┬▓ stands for?

But good to know you have invented faster than light travel I suppose.

there is no real term for what I meant

Sorry to hear the World is not yet ready to understand your genius.

[Beherith]

I love how threads on trivial bullshit can separate the wheat from the chaff.