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PicassoCT wrote:One big advantage one has to admit of 50 diffrent states, all govered by themselves is a lot of experimental stuff happens, and as nature shows variation survives. Monocultures get the plague. I hate to say that, but if those Republicans existed Forb fantasizes about (which un4chanatly are just behaving like democrats for non-us-countrys) at least some american states would survive the economic crisis on there own.
Well trying to deny that america is a republic is pretty silly considering... That's what it is. As mentioned previously, there are those seeking to change that.

Also, the majority of the states have weathered the storm just fine. Kansas (Canned Ass) has been doing fine. Missouri (Misery) hasn't been doing so well, but the state government is run by a bunch of retards, so that's not too shocking, but even it has been doing pretty well. Louisiana (Loose Anna) has been doing fairly well afaik. The states you hear about the most on the news are prolly california and new york and some of the eastern states (All of which have terrible state governments)... There is a common trend here.
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The democrats are not trying to change the character of the republic, though I certainly wish they would. I am tired of parties which differ only in superficial ways, I am tired of the two party system and I am tired of self-destructive unregulated capitalism.
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I am a registered independent... what now faggots!
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smoth wrote:I am a registered independent... what now faggots!
Me too actually :-)
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neddiedrow wrote:The democrats are not trying to change the character of the republic, though I certainly wish they would. I am tired of parties which differ only in superficial ways, I am tired of the two party system and I am tired of self-destructive unregulated capitalism.
Wheee! Triple post!

Not intentionally no, but when you transfer rights from states to the federal government, that's what you are doing.

There is a pretty massive divide between the parties, especially when you start getting down to particulars. Capitalism is what has made this country great, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be regulated at all, but turning against what has made us so prosperous as a nation because of a few oh shits and a couple bad apples is kinda silly is it not?
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PicassoCT wrote:One big advantage one has to admit of 50 diffrent states, all govered by themselves is a lot of experimental stuff happens, and as nature shows variation survives. Monocultures get the plague. I hate to say that, but if those Republicans existed Forb fantasizes about (which un4chanatly are just behaving like democrats for non-us-countrys) at least some american states would survive the economic crisis on there own.
Variation doesn't always survive, but on a very large scale increases the chances of survival for a species and natural selection doesn't always mean that the stronger creature will survive. There are other factors that are arguably as influential as natural selection (such as gentic drift) that determine what kinds of creatures will live. I'm just pointing that out so you don't generalize what happens in nature as far as variation goes too much.
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Oh, my god its Professor Panda and she wields the red ink quill of death and destruction +6 to every grade. Now, that all people will become pupils, we shall unite and run for cover.

So first of all i know, its not the fittest, strongest or whatever that survives, but the most adapted. Meaning, that weak creatures, in heavy dependence on other samecreatures, symbionts and/or natural habitat surrounding them, can, will and have survived, as long as there weakness not handicapped them from spreading there genes or some more resistant parts of the surrounding symbiotic habitat.

And, to eliminate possible sources of further missunderstand, and it crossed my mind for a second, that monocultures are usually very shortliving, before they are destroyed by catastrophic event, actually creating several seperated micropopulations that will adapt to the event and there surroundings, or are replaced by more resistant and/or adaptable species.

And dont you lecture me on xenobiology, starting from creatures who are so adapted to special enviroments, that the statistically likelihood of the even just getting neighbourhood drops near zero. (creatures who dwell on radiation, enormous heat or produce extremely toxic poo [according to a friend there exists even a bacteria who produces formaldehyde] and so on and on and on.. blablabla

Now seriously somebody remind me what that had to do with politics?
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A link without further discussion or commentary in the post is not, in itself, a contribution to a discussion.
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thats why i never click plain link messages.
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neddiedrow wrote:A link without further discussion or commentary in the post is not, in itself, a contribution to a discussion.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/ OK read the free book you can download here for some psychological explanations of political behaviour. I would appreciate more links to this sort of thing, they're pretty interesting.
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PicassoCT wrote:Oh, my god its Professor Panda and she wields the red ink quill of death and destruction +6 to every grade. Now, that all people will become pupils, we shall unite and run for cover.

So first of all i know, its not the fittest, strongest or whatever that survives, but the most adapted. Meaning, that weak creatures, in heavy dependence on other samecreatures, symbionts and/or natural habitat surrounding them, can, will and have survived, as long as there weakness not handicapped them from spreading there genes or some more resistant parts of the surrounding symbiotic habitat.

And, to eliminate possible sources of further missunderstand, and it crossed my mind for a second, that monocultures are usually very shortliving, before they are destroyed by catastrophic event, actually creating several seperated micropopulations that will adapt to the event and there surroundings, or are replaced by more resistant and/or adaptable species.

And dont you lecture me on xenobiology, starting from creatures who are so adapted to special enviroments, that the statistically likelihood of the even just getting neighbourhood drops near zero. (creatures who dwell on radiation, enormous heat or produce extremely toxic poo [according to a friend there exists even a bacteria who produces formaldehyde] and so on and on and on.. blablabla

Now seriously somebody remind me what that had to do with politics?
You were comparing monocultures (growing one kind of crop over a wide area) to to Forb's imaginary political party and saying they would get the plague. I've heard that nomadic people began to catch all sorts of diseases after they stopped being nomadic and started farming and raising livestock, but I still don't think it's a good comparison and I don't ever have any intention of becoming a professor. Looking for political trends and at how politicians use all kinds of propaganda during elections might help a person gain a better understanding of politics if you were into that sort of thing. I would think that it would be better to compare the behaviors displayed in elections to reactions that have been extensively studied as nowadays it seems as though there are basically a lot of annoying smear campaigns designed to get people to be brainlessly rallied one way or another against a candidate. Independent party for me as well, yay.
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Panda wrote:
You were comparing monocultures (growing one kind of crop over a wide area) to to Forb's imaginary political party and saying they would get the plague. I've heard that nomadic people began to catch all sorts of diseases after they stopped being nomadic and started farming...
Jared Diamond, Guns, Germs and Gems? Read that too, and still i find the picture holds, states that proposed unified, monocultured societys ("Volksgemeinschaften" the Nazis called them) not something similar to live and let live like California have shown structural weaknesses, comonly refered to as Collaps.

Panda wrote: and raising livestock, but I still don't think it's a good comparison and I don't ever have any intention of becoming a professor. Looking for political trends and at how politicians use all kinds of propaganda during elections might help a person gain a better understanding of politics if you were into that sort of thing. I would think that it would be better to compare the behaviors displayed in elections to reactions that have been extensively studied as nowadays it seems as though there are basically a lot of annoying smear campaigns designed to get people to be brainlessly rallied one way or another against a candidate. Independent party for me as well, yay.
Yes, i think you are right on that increasing activity on the smear campaign and spindoctor activity over the last decades, guess the generation are gone that still remember what damage can be done by simplifiying peoples world picture. (Better Dead than Red/ Dominotheory/Only choice is between Facists and Communists) come to mind. But more horrible is the fact, we have to admit, most of thoose campaigns work out as they are planned, which undermines the whole thoughtbuilding (bad translation from german "Gedankengebäude") of a Democracy of intelligent citizens. Can i conclude that - the more somebody uses such smear (political marketing) campaigns, the more he actually is against democracy, and for a transfer of power to those not influenced by such campaigns?

PS: Dose somebody knows whats up with neddie? Or do we have to open the response-folder again?
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the wheel in the sky keeps on turning, i dont know...
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