Is this post, in fact, offensive?

[Caydr]

The following is a warning which has been issued to you by an administrator or moderator of this site.

This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 52#p381652 .

You wrote:
Get a real OS. You tea-sipping croissant-loving linux people, wandering around the house naked with bread crumbs collecting on your unwashed feet, raping the dogs and eating the cats, watching fox news, playing freeciv, drawing abstract art, infants crying softly to themselves in another room while you wonder where your life went wrong, playing othello, buying PS3s and returning them because now there's one with a 20 gb larger hard drive for $100 more, painting pawprints on your doors to show your creative playful side, scrawling "carpe diem!" on the wall unsure what it means but positive it makes you a free-thinker, are almost as bad as mactards. Woe is you, but you aren't sure how to tell anyone because you refuse to use email since it was popularized by people using less avant-garde operating systems. Die, eating pizza you made yourself because regular pizza is too commercialized and user-friendly.

Which violates forum rules; felony 1.

Is this offensive or drippingly-obvious sarcasm? Should we add a, "no, I do not REALLY want the target of my post to die" tag? What is going on here? This is moderation for the sake of moderation by someone I imagine is a new moderator that feels he needs to rape someone on his first day to make sure everyone knows he's boss.

Another moderator was the target of the post and he, the bethreatened, didn't feel it needed to be edited since someone else did the editing.

[Noruas]

I never felt so threatened, offended, victimized, terrorized, whorerified, and absolutely annihilated in my entire life, this comment does me in.

[Caydr]

Odd. 0 replies, 19 views, last reply by noruas.

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AND I've edited the first post and it doesn't say anything. WTF is happening?

[CarRepairer]

Perhaps it's your use of the word rape both in your quote and in your post.

And what's with Othello srsly. The answer we were looking for is Settlers of Catan.

[luckywaldo7]

Offensiveness and sarcasm are not mutually exclusive.

That being said, I would indulge in an epic os flamewar with you, but my flames will not be nearly as poetic as yours, so I don't really think I could compete.

[Caydr]

I'm surprised Rape has only been used 386 times to date but I don't think that's what armed the banhammer.

[Regret]

Behe is a newb mod and as such takes obvious jokes way too seriously.

[smoth]

Sarcasm is lost on the internet.

Seems like a flame.

[Noruas]

Odd. 0 replies, 19 views, last reply by noruas.

I don't count as a person so neither does my replies.

Infact as of this post, there is still 7 posts, proof

[Wartender]

sarcasm is indeed lost, i felt offended reading it (fortunately only cause i used linux, i disregarded the rest :D)

perhaps subtly imply that it is sarasm? as for the whole deserved or not to be removed i wouldn't know...

[Dragon45]

You silly nincompoops>>>> modbantiemano

[knorke]

way too over the top to be offensive.

[Caydr]

Exactly, if I'd stopped at the "linux doesn't count" (which in itself I think most people would realize is a joke), I can see how someone might flame me back not realizing my intention. But when I go completely over-the-top my intention is to all but say "no, that was a joke just in case you were on the fence" but instead it's a felony.

Besides this what's the deal with my post from last week getting locked because it "might be controversial!" or something? It's the off topic forum! People routinely post here to talk about how many posts they have and allege that the US government is plotting mass genocide against its citizens. Then I post, genuinely frightened by how many American citizens actually take Fox News seriously and I'm going too far.

[BaNa]

I dunno i smiled when i read it, but then again i can see where he thought it offensive. Kind of like if I made some really funny joke but it contained the word nigger i guess i would be banned or something. Warned anyway.


I think there is some policy against discussing mod actions on the forams but noone really cares about that.

[JohannesH]

Maybe people who only do half of the things in that post, would get offended...

[SinbadEV]

Blah Blah Blah Caydr just committed 3 felonies by reposting a moderated post and complaining about the moderation and then disrespecting said moderator... I'm sorry Caydr, while I agree with you, the principle still stands... please take this kind of discussion to the moderation team before going public with it... I'm going to leave the posts here this time.

[Caydr]

Let me get the leather.... Ok go.

Yeah, I know I should've contacted another mod/admin but I've never been satisfied with forum bureaucracy anywhere I've been... If someone does something that's obviously wrong or out of line with established standards of conduct it's my experience that the only effective way to get it dealt with is to bring the matter to light. What I don't want to see is this forum devolve into what I've seen elsewhere - an entire team of moderators that aren't accountable to anyone and anything goes, shit happens, who cares, if someone abuses their powers don't talk about it or else.

If you want to redefine the rules, that's fine with me and I realize I have little or no say in the matter. Say, "ok from this day forward you have to be nice to each other, no swearing, no joking, no sarcasm, and if you're misunderstood here comes the banhammer", but actually be consistent about it. This kind of gestapo crap - delete the post, leave no hint what was said before but leave the offensive part out of context, tell the person publicly that they've been very naughty, PM them and give them a unilaterally-decided punishment, lock the post so nothing more can be said on the subject, and then don't talk about it or else you'll get in trouble... it's a crock of shit and anyone can see that.

What am I supposed to do in the other thread, say, "hey guys that anti-linux stuff was a joke but I can't explain it or I'll get in trouble so talk amongst yourselves and assume the worst"?

And 0.02% of the market share is valueless to them too.

[rest of post removed]

You have been warned for felony 1.

What's someone supposed to conclude when they see that? And what's someone supposed to think when it's locked (I can't edit it) so in the event I was actually being offensive in the post I can't apologize and remove the offending material willingly?

If I was actually trying to be offensive or destructive I think everyone here knows I'm more than capable of being clear about it.

[lurker]

Odd. No one has mentioned that Caydr put in the offensive text some time after making an initial post with just that first line. I wonder why, seems pretty relevant.

For what it's worth, I'm told you've undone moderation action in the past, and that's most of the reason the post is locked.

And explain to me, in the context of that thread, if that's sarcasm, it's sarcasm aimed at what? (I'm not saying you actually meant it, just that I don't see what you were going for very well.)

[smoth]

What am I supposed to do in the other thread, say, "hey guys that anti-linux stuff was a joke

would have cleared it right up, yes.

[aegis]

I don't want to see is this forum devolve into what I've seen elsewhere - an entire team of moderators that aren't accountable to anyone and anything goes, shit happens, who cares, if someone abuses their powers don't talk about it or else.

Private disputes and disagreements should remain between those they concern directly. Public disruptions regarding private matters can be considered intentional and warrant discipline. This includes discussing and contesting moderators' actions regarding you.

If you feel you have been treated unfairly, ask the moderator to pass your case to another or directly present your case to one of the active higher moderators.

is this unclear in any way?