Our Drummer is in the hospital

[smoth]

You need to be more sensitive if you are "studying" people. You are a person, don't be so arrogant.

[manored]

You need to be more sensitive if you are "studying" people. You are a person, don't be so arrogant.

Its not arrogance, its plain naiveness and an unrealistic lack of social skills.

[Forboding Angel]

Fyi if it makes any real difference, he was an organ donor, and all of his organs were dead before he died which makes them somewhat useless to anyone else.

[smoth]

I recall you posting that at least on the first page.

[manored]

Fyi if it makes any real difference, he was an organ donor, and all of his organs were dead before he died which makes them somewhat useless to anyone else.

It greatly increases my respect for him.

[Forboding Angel]

Moderators might have to cull this one, because I feel /rage coming on.

You know what really fucks me up? My friend is dead and all you give a flying fuck about was whether he was an organ donor after he had a transplant. Regardless of the fact that only a moron would ask that question in the first place, maybe you should take biology again because organs in troubled transplant patients aren't worth a shit to anyone because their body generally trashes them in the process.

What does "Anti-Rejection Medication" mean to you?

Sigh. I'm sick and I already ran out of steam, how sad is that?

[SinbadEV]

My Condolences. I think what you said was an entirely appropriate response.

I remember feeling like everyone who said "Condolences" was a bit of a douche when my dad died... but in retrospect it helped. When you own the grief entirely it's unbearable so just knowing it's shared around seems to help. I'm glad to hear his surviving family will have such caring support... The sad irony is that when a good man dies he's usually touched a lot of lives along the way and thereby leaves those people behind to hold each other up.

[smoth]

as my mom said, the people you knew live on in you.

[manored]

So would you prefer me to lie, to pretend I fell sad for the death of someone I do not know? I fell sad only for the family he leaves behind, and for you, but its only the same sadness I fell for the cruel manner of the world. Regardeless I, at your request, dedicated prayers for him and his family, and then, after reading his obituary that mentioned he would be cremated, it came to my mind the doubt of whenever he had donated organs or not, as I felt that if he had remembered those who gave in a second chance I could trully mark him as a nice person in my mind, like you said he was.

But if you want to be consoled, look into your soul and discover that even thought he is gonne you can fell his presence, if you so desire.

[Hoi]

So would you prefer me to lie, to pretend I fell sad for the death of someone I do not know? I fell sad only for the family he leaves behind, and for you, but its only the same sadness I fell for the cruel manner of the world. Regardeless I, at your request, dedicated prayers for him and his family, and then, after reading his obituary that mentioned he would be cremated, it came to my mind the doubt of whenever he had donated organs or not, as I felt that if he had remembered those who gave in a second chance I could trully mark him as a nice person in my mind, like you said he was.

This is not about you, this is about Kyle.

So would you prefer me to lie, to pretend I fell sad for the death of someone I do not know? I fell sad only for the family he leaves behind, and for you, but its only the same sadness I fell for the cruel manner of the world.

This is the most retarded thing I've ever heared.

Now please stop this, we don't want this thread to be locked becaus of your ego, this thread is not about you, if you want a thread about you, make one.

[manored]

I speak about myself because mutual-understandement is how conflicts are solved. But I am tired of this.

I assume that providences for this are already arranged, but anyway I will remind again: Its probally a good idea to examine the kid.

[smoth]

they probably already did that mannored.

[manored]

they probably already did that mannored.

So I hope.

[Panda]

Honestly. Why would you even need to ask that question?

I am interested into the behavior of people, sorry if I made a question whose answer is kinda obvious in a bad moment, Im kinda oblivious to how other people think.

In my culture not donating your organs after dead if you received organs is vile, unless the family prevents you that is, or if you forgot/thought you would have more time to tell then/sign the document.

In order to be an organ donor you usually have to die of some sort of brain injury from an accident, your organs have to still be able to function with the help of machines, and must not be damaged or otherwise made unusable by things such as medications.

So would you prefer me to lie, to pretend I fell sad for the death of someone I do not know?

What Forb would like, as he is feeling sad, is for someone to listen and be concerned. He would like responses that have a meaning of, I understand what you are going through and will be supportive of you while you feel sad because your friend died. What he does not want is an emotionless, logical response such as the one I am giving to you right now.

Whether or not you feel that way, understand on an emotional and intellectual level, or wish to respond in such a way is up to you, but you don't appear to be being very considerate. It would be more considerate to address issues having to do with mourning with a response that is not emotionless and, therefore, does not discourage the mourning person from fully accepting the reality of his friend's death. No one's asking you to pretend to feel sad or lie, but a thoughtless, unsympathetic response may repulse the mourner and worsen their grief.

Regardeless I, at your request, dedicated prayers for him and his family,

Simply saying you dedicated prayers to him does not necessarily mean that you understand very well, care, or know what your talking about in relation to his situation especially if your not thoughtful.

and then, after reading his obituary that mentioned he would be cremated, it came to my mind the doubt of whenever he had donated organs or not, as I felt that if he had remembered those who gave in a second chance I could trully mark him as a nice person in my mind, like you said he was.

You are, again, being inconsiderate, meaning that you are not being as thoughtful as you think your being, by not taking into account what his beliefs are in the matter. Doing so is important when you are trying to figure out what your praying for and how to offer you condolences.

But if you want to be consoled, look into your soul and discover that even thought he is gonne you can fell his presence, if you so desire.

Or he could get social support. Just because you think he should look into his soul doesn't mean he has to.

I speak about myself because mutual-understandement is how conflicts are solved. But I am tired of this.

That's good, but you should work more on your understanding by trying harder to correctly matching up your responses with the social situation at hand. Your response is not so right, because it make you appear as though you weren't being thoughtful.

[Forboding Angel]

Found a whole bunch of pics of Kyle I haz a happie.









My favorite is the one where he was putting that picture up and had a "Durr de durrr" face on. That was hilarious when he did that.

[manored]

Stop posting here, I'm not good at these things either, that's why I have no posts in this thread, take a hint -SwiftSpear

[daan 79]

Sorry to hear.

All the strenth and hope to deal with the loss of your friend.

[REVENGE]

My condolences Forb, may your friend rest in peace.

[Forboding Angel]

Today would have been Kyle's 25th Birthday. R.I.P. Buddy, I miss you!

[SwiftSpear]

RIP. It's too young to die