Cannot Reclaim Shark's Teeth

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 27 Jan 2007, 12:21

This has happened twice. Shark's teeth built have this sort of slant on them, and no unit can reclaim them.

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Relative · Post by **Relative** » 27 Jan 2007, 12:27

Did you press "e"

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » 27 Jan 2007, 13:20

That slant is cause the sea bed below them is on a slant. Even though they are floating on the surface they still slant to the slope of the sea bed.

Im not sure why you cant reclaim them though.

manored · Post by **manored** » 27 Jan 2007, 13:57

If you cant reclaim, blast em!

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 27 Jan 2007, 14:16

ah, so that's what causes the slant...but is the slant what causes the problem?

you'll see that my mouse cursor is hovering over the shark's tooth, as its information is shown in the bottom left hand corner. you should also see that my construction ship is the only unit selected, and that the cursor is not the reclaim cursor.

not sure if this is mod-related or spring related, so i just post it here in hopes of it getting fixed

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 27 Jan 2007, 14:56

It's likely mod related so please mention this in the BA thread.

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 27 Jan 2007, 21:40

Area reclaim in the meantime for a temporary fix.

manored · Post by **manored** » 27 Jan 2007, 22:39

Dragon45 wrote:Area reclaim in the meantime for a temporary fix.

But in area reclaim mode dragon teeth built by you and probaly allies too arent reclaimed, and so the same thing must happen to shark teeth.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 28 Jan 2007, 01:15

OK, I've tested out a few things, and here's what I've found.

Shark's teeth are currently 100% unreclaimable in both BA and AA. E does not work. E and dragging a circle also does not work.

Don't believe me? Host a game on BA or AA with water, start your comm in it, and build a shark's tooth. If you can reclaim it, I am very confused.

From what I've seen this isn't a very obscure bug. It happens every game I've hosted on BA and AA (AA has to be 2.23 or higher as I just found out). For some reason, XTA worked, so it is somehow mod-related, but at the same time, the bug occurs for old versions of AA for which it previously did not, therefore the bug is linked both to a new version of spring as well as the BA/AA mod.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 28 Jan 2007, 01:24

Addendum: Shark's teeth reclaiming works in AA version 1.46

Therefore, there is a change in shark's teeth that occured between AA 1.46 and AA 2.23, and this change has, since the last version of spring, prevented them from being reclaimed.

It follows that this bug can be fixed by either the modders or the Spring devs. The Spring devs have caused it, as it suddenly appeared for any AA/BA derivant after AA 1.46, but modders can fix it by reverting back to the style of shark's teeth in either AA 1.46 or XTA.

AF · Post by AF » 28 Jan 2007, 01:41

in OTA you had to put the mouse over the posiion on the seabed a wreck occuped to reclaim it rather than the wreck itself. Try doing the same in spring.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 28 Jan 2007, 01:46

Don't bother, we already found out why:

Saktoth wrote:Its a simple reclaimable=0; on the corpse. Dont know why that was put on there, or why it didnt do anything earlier. Probably some minor change in spring that activated this tag?

The corpses that have this (In Features/Corpses/type2.tdf) are FloatingTeeth, FloatingTeeth_Core, Fortification and Fortification_Core.

So sharks teeth and fortification walls cant be reclaimed. I can see the motivation behind the fort walls (i mean there has to be some reason to build them right?) but sharks teeth?

It was caused by the new version of Spring, but it's really something that the modders need to change.

manored · Post by **manored** » 28 Jan 2007, 03:58

hunterw wrote:OK, I've tested out a few things, and here's what I've found.

Shark's teeth are currently 100% unreclaimable in both BA and AA. E does not work. E and dragging a circle also does not work.

Don't believe me? Host a game on BA or AA with water, start your comm in it, and build a shark's tooth. If you can reclaim it, I am very confused.

From what I've seen this isn't a very obscure bug. It happens every game I've hosted on BA and AA (AA has to be 2.23 or higher as I just found out). For some reason, XTA worked, so it is somehow mod-related, but at the same time, the bug occurs for old versions of AA for which it previously did not, therefore the bug is linked both to a new version of spring as well as the BA/AA mod.

You probaly tried to reclaim your own shark teeth in area reclaim. In area reclaim your dragon/shark teeth cannot be reclaimed.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 28 Jan 2007, 05:37

NO

THEY CANNOT BE RECLAIMED NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO

quit trying to tell me how to reclaim them unless you know how to reclaim them, which you don't, because

1. you haven't tried, guarenteed, and
2. YOU CAN'T

read teh thread ftw

Post by **ILMTitan** » 28 Jan 2007, 07:07

This is a mod issue that only came to light because of a bug-fix to the engine.
It is a mod issue. Take it up with the mods themselves.

ralphie · Post by **ralphie** » 28 Jan 2007, 08:46

Funnily enough, I came to post the same thing

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 28 Jan 2007, 10:01

Caydr didn't want these kinds of defenses to be reclaimable. You're supposed to blast them.

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 28 Jan 2007, 15:07

As Titan says this is a mod issue, so discussion about fixing it should only continue in the mod's thread. Hunter is correct about the mod bug, so arguing with him isn't worthwhile either.

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Cannot Reclaim Shark's Teeth

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